In Anticipation of July 4th

"JR1" (type35bugatti) 07/03/2018 at 15:50 • Filed to: None

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What is the most “American” car not made by a US manufacturer? My answer should be obvious; styling that looks like what an 80s Mustang should have been , V8 power, and good ol’ English heritage not unlike the US of A.

Mercedes Streeter > JR1 07/03/2018 at 15:57

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BMW.

Built in the US and t hey’re the largest exporter of cars in the United States.

Tripper > JR1 07/03/2018 at 15:57

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“AC” Cobra

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > JR1 07/03/2018 at 15:57

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When I was more fresh into cars, I thought these were buil t by Ford  for some reason.... Like the ownership spanned decades earlier. 

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > JR1 07/03/2018 at 15:58

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Claiming Astons are Fords is one of my favorite infrequent pastimes.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > JR1 07/03/2018 at 16:00

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Jenson 100%.  Maybe an AMG of some sort.  Brash, V8 RWD

Galileo Humpkins (aka MC Clap Yo Handz) > JR1 07/03/2018 at 16:01

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nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul > JR1 07/03/2018 at 16:02

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My bird IS the word > JR1 07/03/2018 at 16:03

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Long-Voyager > JR1 07/03/2018 at 16:07

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I offer to you: The Jensen Interceptor

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > JR1 07/03/2018 at 16:07

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Was going to say Challenger or Camaro.

Damn you and your careful wording.

CobraJoe > JR1 07/03/2018 at 16:08

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Nissan Titan.

Read a story that Nissan even sent engineers to Texas just to see what people like and dislike in half ton trucks.

Only available with a 5.6L V8, has plenty of grunt down low, and is as capable as any other half ton.  Plus, the towing package was originally called the “Big Tow” package.  Double plus, it was built in Mississippi. 

Frenchlicker > Long-Voyager 07/03/2018 at 16:09

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This

bhtooefr > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 07/03/2018 at 16:36

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The Challenger is made by a Dutch/British/Italian manufacturer.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > JR1 07/03/2018 at 16:46

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The FJ40 as a competitor to the jeep. 

nermal > JR1 07/03/2018 at 17:08

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- Truck

- Big-ass V8, tons of POWAHH and sounds sweet

- MPGs? Meh, who cares

- Big-ass grille

- Chrome everywhere

- Small herd of cattle sacrificed to make interior

- Made in TX

JR1 > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 07/03/2018 at 17:34

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That is actually why I worded  it the way I did

JR1 > Long-Voyager 07/03/2018 at 17:34

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You are not first person to mention that I guess I just don’t understand why

JR1 > CobraJoe 07/03/2018 at 17:34

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That is pretty impressive. But isn’t it still is one of the slowest selling trucks in the country?

JR1 > Mercedes Streeter 07/03/2018 at 17:35

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Yeah but I guess I don’t think of a BMW a s having an American character

JR1 > Tripper 07/03/2018 at 17:36

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But it was manufactured in California to put the legendary 289 and 427 motor s in it

JR1 > nermal 07/03/2018 at 17:37

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This and the Nissan truck are both valid arguments 

JR1 > nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul 07/03/2018 at 17:37

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Eh maybe American names but they have Italian hearts 

JR1 > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 07/03/2018 at 17:38

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They were owned  by Ford for a period but not the period this particular car was built, at least not to my knowledge 

JR1 > My bird IS the word 07/03/2018 at 17:38

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Do explain yourself with this one

JR1 > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap 07/03/2018 at 17:38

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Oh! That is a good one

JR1 > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 07/03/2018 at 17:39

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Always fun to ruffle peoples feathers like that

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 07/03/2018 at 17:44

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“See, look right here- FoMoCo!”

“YOU’RE WRONG SOMEONE MODIFIED THE CAR TO HAVE THAT”

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > JR1 07/03/2018 at 18:11

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Yeahhh I knew that. It just seemed like it when I was a youngin.

JeepJeremy > Galileo Humpkins (aka MC Clap Yo Handz) 07/03/2018 at 21:18

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woah.  that’s a rad lookin truck!

AestheticsInMotion > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 07/03/2018 at 22:36

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I like pointing out the NA Miata interior door handles

AestheticsInMotion > JR1 07/03/2018 at 22:44

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The 1st gen Celica. It’s got the classic muscle look, and it while the engines were small, they made just as much (or more) power as the Mustang was putting down at the time, while being significantly lighter. Fast, cheap, muscle car loom. That’s about as American as it gets.

ranwhenparked > JR1 07/03/2018 at 23:11

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My bird IS the word > JR1 07/04/2018 at 00:18

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Nissan/datsun was trying hard to imitate British and American sports cars in a way that other J apanese cars never have. It was inexpensive, powered by a serious engine compared to its weight, and functional in other roles with reasonable cargo room. It was the closest Japan ever came to an American muscle car. The development of the z car with the 2+2s and the z32 300zxs being near identical to the comparable camaro/firebird being the end result. With the 350 and 370 migrating away and being marginally less successful as a result.

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > AestheticsInMotion 07/04/2018 at 02:03

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I like pointing out the blatantly badge engineered Mazda SUVs , or deliberately trying to confuse Escape owners into thinking that they’ve actually been driving Mazda Tributes

Long-Voyager > JR1 07/05/2018 at 06:52

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Large RWD body powered by a big block V8 ( 440 Mopar to be exact). It’s an English Muscle car through and through.

CobraJoe > JR1 07/05/2018 at 09:54

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Probably is, the truck market is a very difficult place to break in to. Too many people have allegiances to certain brands (or assumed country of manufacture) to even consider a new competitor.

Doesn’t mean it’s a bad truck though, I ended up getting one after test driving a Ram with a Hemi.  The Nissan actually felt more powerful, even though it was rated 40hp less. 

JR1 > AestheticsInMotion 07/05/2018 at 18:25

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Probably a stupid question did these have v8 engines?

JR1 > ranwhenparked 07/05/2018 at 18:26

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Do explain. I don’t know what that even is

JR1 > My bird IS the word 07/05/2018 at 18:27

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Hm I never would have made the connection but you have a good point!

JR1 > Long-Voyager 07/05/2018 at 18:27

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I had no idea it had a Mopa r under the hood

JR1 > CobraJoe 07/05/2018 at 18:29

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There are still enough of them around that Nissan must be doing something right!

ranwhenparked > JR1 07/05/2018 at 18:37

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The Leyland P76, a full-size car built by British Leyland’s Australian and New Zealand plants from 1973-1975. Came in sedan, wagon, or coupe forms, and with either a 4.4l V8 or a 2.6l straight six. Total flop on the market, only about 18,000 made. But, as a big mass market Australian car, definitely as American as anything built outside America could be.

JR1 > ranwhenparked 07/05/2018 at 18:42

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Really Australian cars are as close as one can get to an American car.

My bird IS the word > JR1 07/05/2018 at 19:49

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After I drove a 280z, it clicked. 

CobraJoe > JR1 07/06/2018 at 00:42

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They do have a few problems in the early models, but the problems are pretty reasonable, especially considering that it is an entirely new model for Nissan.

Besides, a leaky rear end seal is far better than blowing out spark plugs or eating transmissions.

Long-Voyager > JR1 07/06/2018 at 06:55

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RT > JR1 07/07/2018 at 08:05

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The Aston is a good call visually , but remember, it was powered by Tadek Marek’s engines, which were Polish .

The De Tomaso Pantera actually had Ford engines powering it, it’s as close as you’re going to get to an 80s Ford GT (unless the RS200 counts, but that car was unrelated to Ford USA) .

JR1 > RT 07/08/2018 at 07:36

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That is a good choice as well. I had not thought about the De Tomaso